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Don’t Let Obama Bypass Congress

February 10, 2013

Tens of millions of Americans will pay more for electricity because of action President Barack Obama already has taken in his war on the coal industry....

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thetruthforonce

Feb-10-13 6:09 AM

Get over it, Mike. Obama won. Romney lost. Your crusade failed. Elections have consequences. Presidents have the power to issue executive orders. Just ask Dubbya's, the King of executive orders and signing statements.

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daWraith

Feb-10-13 8:52 AM

2/8/2013

"President Obama has a split 46 - 45 percent job approval, according to the independent Quinnipiac (KWUIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll, down from 53 - 40 percent approval among registered voters in December, a month after his re-election.

Today's figure is closer to the president's negative 45 - 49 percent job approval in July, in the middle of his reelection campaign, and similar to his job score for much of his first term.

Face it, goofforonce, your messiah is just a an affirmative action toke POS president of the Ghetto welfare crowd.

He got 8 million FEWER votes in 2012, the majority of people in 85% of the country voted against him.

He only won because the densely populated urban welfare ghettos vasly outnumber the rural and suburban population of America.

Hilarious that a podunk red state resident thinks that is a GOOD thing, but then you are a blithering idiot.

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TrollSlayer

Feb-10-13 9:02 AM

thetruthforonce “Get over it, Mike. Obama won... Presidents have the power to issue executive orders. Just ask Dubbya's, the King of executive orders and signing statements.”

Sounds like you still haven’t gotten over “King” Bush’s executive orders and signing statements. How about we’ll “get over it” when you “but Bushers” get over it? LOL

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wvhoopie

Feb-10-13 9:04 AM

The war on coal has created 1500 addiional coal mining jobs in WV and has set a record for production. If Obama has declared war on coal with these results, the coal operators should be laughing all the way to the bank! Some war! LOL

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SpankysLastDance

Feb-10-13 9:13 AM

Before America can do anything about Obama's war on coal they first have to stop Obama's war on America!

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TrollSlayer

Feb-10-13 9:58 AM

The Chinese LOVE Obama’s War on Coal. If demand for coal is suppressed here, the price for coal drops here, and foreign countries like China can buy and burn our coal at a bargain. Coal miners can thank China for keeping them employed, NOT Obama. Thanks, Hu Jintao, no thanks, Barry Obankrupter.

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WVEXPAT

Feb-10-13 10:08 AM

Hoopie, Both employment AND production are down in WV.

"Coal mine employment in West Virginia dropped in the last months of 2012 as a flurry of factors continues to pressure the industry.

West Virginia mining jobs were down to 21,400 in the fourth quarter — a loss of about 1,200 jobs, according to Mine Safety and Health Administration data. Most of the losses occurred from surface mining operations where production has been on the decline in recent years." (2/6/13 Grounded)

From the US Energy Administration; (Google weekly coal production) month ending January 2012 - 11,290 (thousand short tons). Production month ending January 2013 - 10,753 (thousand short tons).

From BLS; coal mining employment (nationally) January 2012 89,300. January 2013 82,000.

Obviously numerous factors have led to the decline, but the numbers ARE declining.

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BigMike

Feb-10-13 1:00 PM

There is no war on coal?

"Coal mines, especially in Appalachia, are coming under increasing fire from environmental interest groups and the Obama administration. The EPA revoked a clean water permit that the Army Corps of Engineers had previously awarded, despite the fact that, according to the Army Corps, the permit complies with West Virginia state water law and the federal Clean Water Act. The problem, according to EPA, is that granting the permit would lead to changes in the conductivity (or salinity) of the water that might be detrimental to mayflies, stoneflies, and caddis flies. ] In other words, EPA denied the permit, not because of impacts on human health, but potential impacts on mayflies. Because EPA implemented this conductivity guidance without going through the proper regulatory process, a federal district court threw out EPA’s conductivity standards."

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BigMike

Feb-10-13 1:04 PM

There is no war on coal? "The EPA has promulgated new regulations that target mercury from coal-fired power plants (the Mercury and Air Toxic Standards), which many call Utility MACT because the rule requires “Maximum Achievable Control Technology” for mercury at coal-fired power plants. The National Economic Research Associates found compliance costs to be $21 billion per year and lost jobs to amount to 183,000 per year. Because the increased costs will be passed to consumers through higher electricity rates, businesses will be forced to reduce jobs as well. Studies project that retail electricity prices will increase between 10 and 20 percent in most of the country and over 20 percent in the coal-dependent states in the Midwest."

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BigMike

Feb-10-13 1:06 PM

There is no war on coal? "EIA announced that plant owners and operators expect to retire about 27 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity by 2016 — four times the 6.5 gigawatts of capacity retired between 2007 and 2011 mostly because of the new regulations imposed by the EPA.

In 2012, electric generators are expected to retire 9 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity, the largest amount of retirements in a single year in America’s history. The 27 gigawatts of retiring capacity is 8.5 percent of total coal-fired capacity (318 gigawatts). The 2012 record retirements are expected to be exceeded in 2015 when nearly 10 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity are expected to retire. Most of the units retiring are located in the Mid-Atlantic, Ohio River Valley, and Southeastern United States.

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BigMike

Feb-10-13 1:08 PM

There is no war on coal? The Edison Electric Institute expects a larger number of forced retirements—about 48 gigawatts of coal units at 231 plants—between 2010 and 2022, or about 15 percent of the coal fleet.

Further, pending greenhouse gas regulations will require all new coal-fired plants to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions even though there is no cost effective way to do so. This is essentially a ban on new coal-fired plants because the technology does not exist commercially for them to meet natural gas carbon dioxide levels that are required by the EPA regulation. Many believe that the administration is planning on releasing regulations effectively requiring all coal-fired power plants to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions or close. EPA could decide that the modifications made to plants during the upgrades to comply with utility MACT are significant and treat the existing power plant as a “new source” forcing the plant to almost halve its carbon dioxide emissions or c

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BigMike

Feb-10-13 1:14 PM

There is no war on coal? "Regulating carbon dioxide emissions for coal-fired plants will force mass coal plant retirements, causing unemployment at coal-fired power plants and coal mines. According to a report from the United Mine Workers of America, job losses associated with the closure of EPA-targeted coal units (due to Utility MACT and tighter greenhouse gas standards) could amount to more than 50,000 direct jobs in the coal, utility and rail industries, and an indirect job loss figure exceeding 250,000.

Some have suggested that these closures are mainly due to the low price of natural gas made possible through shale gas discoveries. Regardless, it would be prudent for policy makers and analysts to consider the consequences of removing one of the major three sources of electrical generation from our fuel mix for electricity."

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BigMike

Feb-10-13 1:16 PM

Currently our electrical generation mix is largely coal, natural gas and nuclear power. While natural gas prices are currently low, gas-directed rig activity is also very low, which could have an impact on supplies in the out years. Further, the Wall Street Journal reported on January 29 that pressure is increasing to shutter nuclear power plants.

If the United States decides that it can provide the vast majority of its electricity from natural gas, it must assure that those supplies will not be threatened by government actions, including the federalization of hydraulic fracturing regulation or other attempts to require federal permission to drill natural gas wells. The consequences of skyrocketing electricity prices brought on by bad public policies will only exacerbate the economic ills our nation faces going forward.

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BigMike

Feb-10-13 1:28 PM

“The technically recoverable coal resources in the United States are unsurpassed and total 50 percent of the world’s coal reserves. At 486 billion short tons, it can supply our country’s electricity demand for coal for almost 500 years at current usage rates.”

WVHoopie and others would prefer that we load this coal onto ships and transfer it to developing economies, while forcing millions of Americans into energy poverty and weakening our economy at the same time. I think this is a bad policy, but maybe I'm being selfish.

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BigMike

Feb-10-13 1:44 PM

wvhoopie and others want America to be the Saudi Arabia of coal. Be careful what you wish for. I don't think a 3rd world country ruled by a king who's citizens live in poverty is a society that we should try to emulate.

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daWraith

Feb-10-13 1:54 PM

Yeah! What BigMike and WVEXPAT Said!

BS artists like WVHoopingcough keep digging up 2010 & 2011 figures when coal production was up BEFORE OBAMA"s EPA got up and running fully with its CAP and TRADE by Executive Order disaster.

Coal Production IS DOWN DOWN DOWN now, that is the FACT. The EXPORT market is the only bright spot for coal, THANKS to the US WAR on COAL.

Get the FACTS, JACK!

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whgfeeling

Feb-11-13 12:18 AM

shut em down. just plain dirty, smelly toxic crap. cover up the mines and move forward to better energy. as long as the mines are open they will continue to mine. shut em down and fill them in.

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LogHog

Feb-11-13 4:41 AM

Obummer "it won't be illegal to build a coal fired power plant under my plans,but it will bankrupt any company that does build one" obummers economic plan: more people on wealfare/unemployment collecting Govt. benifits depending on him..paying for it by printing more worth less script...this plan has been tried before through out history...has never ended well for the general public...

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daWraith

Feb-11-13 7:46 AM

whgfailure we are talking about coal mines, not your boyfriend.

Coal is WV largest employer. What you are saying is commit suicide for WV.

BIOYA, creepy little cretin.

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Howard

Feb-11-13 8:03 AM

Mr. Obama is the worst President in U.S. history. Period. In one of the comments above someone stated he won only because he carried densely populated urban areas of the country and this is absolutely true. It's also true that in many of the precincts in these urban areas, more people voted than were registered to vote. If you noticed I refer to Obama as Mr. Obama, not President Obama. I refuse to accept this ideologue as my President. He is against almost everything I'm for and he's for almost everything I'm against. I believe King Obama or Emperor Obama would be more appropriate. Nothing more disastrous to the well being of the United States could have happened than Obama being its President. Heaven forbid, he has 4 more years to complete his destruction of this great country.

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GETACLUE

Feb-11-13 8:15 AM

"Coal is WV largest employer. What you are saying is commit suicide for WV."

HEALTH CARE IS WV LARGEST EMPLOYEER

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GETACLUE

Feb-11-13 8:15 AM

"Coal is WV largest employer. What you are saying is commit suicide for WV."

HEALTH CARE IS WV LARGEST EMPLOYER

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rover1958

Feb-11-13 8:30 AM

@sub-human Wraith: 'Coal is WV largest employer'

Bull! It's HEALTH CARE ! Surprised you're not pimping 'Whale Oil' for lamps! You are soooo 19th Century!

Thank God for OBAMACARE!. We have seen the future and IT WORKS !

Go back to hiding in under your car with all your guns as you live in bowel erupting fear of the monster killer loose in California. Boogida, boogdida, !!

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Shark88

Feb-11-13 8:37 AM

Hey Howard, I'm with ya partner.

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."

Isn't it amazing how such a so-called "educated & enlightened people" have spent billion$ upon billion$ on something they coin as 'climate change' or 'global warming'? The same being no more than a THEORY. Yes, only a THEORY.

Same with Evolution. They base an entire doctrine and way of life on a THEORY, while at the same time suppressing the truth in unrighteousness.

So foolish.

So what do the people do? That's right, they give the schlickmeister 4 more years to "finish the job".

Now you know why Jesus referred to people as "sheep".

The sheeple have given themselves over to lies, deception, complacency, compromise, and uncleanness.

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oldmansvan

Feb-11-13 8:42 AM

Compared to Romney, Obama is coals best friend and W, V. voters went for Romney. Go figure.

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